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Jill Carroll's Exit Interview
Mujahideen competes with '60 Minutes'...
[by Laura Mansfield] 3/31/06

The following is a trancript of the video released Thursday morning on the internet by the "Mujahideen of Iraq", showing a pre-release interview that the jihadis did with American hostage Jill Carroll.

The interview, conducted in English except for a brief portion at the end, can be downloaded from http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/jolkorl2.rm

Male speaker: Dear Carroll. We are from the mujahideen in Iraq.

(Jill Carroll nods her head)

Male speaker: Please we want to ask you some questions.

Jill Carroll: mmmK

Male speaker: How did the mujahideen treat you?

Jill Carroll: They treated me very well, they treated me very well. Like a guest. I was given very good food, kept very safe, treated very, very well,"

Male speaker: Did you think the American army or the CIA would save you at any time?

Contributor Laura Mansfield Laura Mansfield is a writer and commentator on issues regarding the Middle East, Islam, and Radical Islamic Terrorism. Subscribers to her Strategic Translations and Analysis service include major libraries in the US, the UK, Germany, and Italy; various US and UK governmental and intelligence agencies; law enforcement agencies in the US, UK, Italy, and Germany; and many Fortune 500 companies. She is a regular subject matter consultant for news agencies in the UK, the US, Germany, Italy, and Israel. [go to Mansfield index] [go to Mansfield website]

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Jill Carroll: I thought maybe they might. Sometimes I thought maybe that they might come, they might find me, they might find a way to know where I am and come, and come get me. I did think maybe they might.

Male speaker: Why did not they save you?

Jill Carroll: Well, I think the mujahideen are very, are very, are very smart and even with all the technology and even with all technologies and all the people that the American army has here, they still are better at knowing how to live and work here, and more clever, despite all the technology of the American army, they are still more clever, and better at being here than the American army, they are still better at what they do.

Male speaker: Does this mean anything to you?

Jill Carroll: Well I think it makes it very clear that the mujahideen are the ones that will win in the end, in this war, I think it makes it very clear that even with thousands of troops and airplanes and tanks and guns that that doesn't mean anything here on the ground in Iraq, I think it shows over time, over time, maybe, however many months are left in the Iraqi occupation, that its pretty clear that the mujahideen are the ones that will have the victory at the end of the day. It shows that no matter what the Americans try to say is happening here, or try to do with all there weapons, they are mistaken, the are not going to be able to stop the mujahideen here in Iraq.

Male speaker: What will you tell the American people about the mujahideen when you go back to America?

Jill Carroll: Well, first of all I want them to understand the mujahideen truly. There are a lot of lies that come out of the American government calling the mujahideen terrorists, I think it is important that the American people hear from me that the mujahideen are only trying to defend their country, it's only a jihad to stop an illegal and dangerous and deadly occupation. I think its important to see that the mujahideen are people like we've seen throughout history resisting an occupation, trying to fight a foreign force in their land. It's their country and they have a right to fight for their own freedom. So I think, I want people to understand that. That its not people that like to kill, not people that like violence, but people that love their country, and that want to see their country free of occupation.

And also I want them to understand that the situation in Iraq in general, how difficult it is here. People don't have electricity, they don't have water. Children don't have good safe streets to walk in. Women and children are always in danger here. Houses are always destroyed. People are killed left and right in the street without any reason, people die every day from the bombings and the shootings that go on and all these things, so I think people need to understand in American how difficult life is here for normal average Iraqis, how every day is a matter of survival, life or death for most Iraqis and thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of Iraqis have lot their lives here because of the occupation. I think Americans need to think about that and realize day to day how difficult life is how terrifying it is for most people to live here every day under the occupation.

Male speaker: Do you have a message for Mr. Bush.

Jill Carroll: (smiles, laughs, and nods her head) Yeah. He needs to stop this war. He knows this war is wrong He knows it was illegal from the very beginning. He knows that it is built on a mountain of lies and I think he needs to finally admit that to the American people and make the troops go home. And he doesn't care about his own people and he doesn't care about the people here in Iraq. He needs to wake up and the people in America need to wake up and tell him what he's done here is wrong so hopefully somehow he'll get the message that this war is wrong, that this continued occupation is wrong. That he can change his policies. It's as dangerous for Iraqis as it is for Americans and he needs to accept it and admit that to the people.

Male speaker: You have said the Mujahideen will win the war against the American army.

Jill Carroll: Oh definitely, definitely. It is very clear to see even now they are already winning every day there are soldiers killed, every day humvees blown up, helicopters are shot down every day, it is very clear the mujahideen have the skills and the ability and the desire and the good reasons to fight and for sure they will win.

Male speaker: What do you feel now that the mujahideen are giving you your freedom while there are still women in Abu Ghraib living in very bad situations.

Jill Carroll: Well, I feel guilty honestly. I've been here, treated very well, like a guest. I've been given good food, never, never hurt while those women are in Abu Ghraib. Terrible things are happening to them with the American soldiers are torturing them and other things I don't want, I can't even say, so I feel guilty and I also feels it shows the difference between the mujahideen and Americans, the mujahideen are merciful and kind that's why I'm free and alive. The American army they aren't. I feel guilty and I also feel that it just shows that mujahideen are good people, fighting an honorable fight, a good fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very, very bad way so I can't be happy totally for my freedom, there are people still suffering in prisons and very difficult situations. It shows the difference between the mujahideen and the Americans, it shows the mujahedeen are good people fighting an honourable fight while the Americans are here as an occupying force treating the people in a very bad way ONE

copyright 2006 Laura Mansfield

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